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Time to do more for charity than just give

Interview by Lucinda Schmidt | March 8 2006 | The Sydney Morning Herald & The Age (subscribe)

Adrian Pyle is the Mission Giving Leader for the Uniting Church of
Australia.

What makes you angry?

Advertising campaigns that encourage people to give because of guilt. They present issues in a very black-and-white way and suggest that if we make a financial contribution it will solve the issues.

For example?

Pictures of models depicted as children in poverty or as a young woman with suicidal tendencies.

Why is this a problem?

It actually separates us from the issue because we think "if I make the payment, I've assuaged my guilt". We just make the donation and forget.

It should be about encouraging people to get mad in a constructive way, to become engaged with the issue.

What do you do personally?

Two years ago I moved from the corporate sector [as a senior IT manager at a big bank] to the community sector, working first for my local church, helping to connect to the local community, and now for the Uniting Church, leading a team that encourages generosity in the community.

Has that changed your attitude to giving?

Yes. For years my old university sent me letters for their bequest program, but I'd ignore them because I didn't connect with it. Now, I see bequests as a very positive way to make a huge difference to people and communities through giving. In my own will, I've left a bequest to the Uniting Church to continue its work on inter-faith relationships: bringing real people together in ways that make life better.

What else?

I try to be more creative with what I do with my donations. I invest in a highly-successful but ethical fund manager, which contributes its operating surplus to building communities. I also have a small parcel of shares and I put the dividends into programs that are based around education, spiritual development and building relations across faiths.

What has influenced you?

In the past, I'd see issues out there that I wanted to get involved in, but I didn't know how. But I met some people who had a deep sense of engaged philanthropy, rather than guilt-giving. And I also came across some corporates, who realised that a sponsorship deal or throwing money at a problem, is not the real solution. It's more about leadership by example.

What can we do?

I want to encourage people into more engaged philanthropy, rather than an "us-and-them" approach. It's not about "us" giving "them" a contribution to pull them up to our level. It's about us understanding each other, learning about each other, and connecting with each other - and that's where generosity begins.

For example?

My local church decided to support a Muslim asylum-seeking family. I think they taught us more about life than we were able to help them.

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